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Is There Such A Thing As A Sakai Security Cameras

Li'l Bull

  • #1

Hi, native speakers of English!

I have institute these two examples of the structure "Is at that place such (a) affair as...?":

one) Is in that location such a thing as 'diameter out'? (Source: Is at that place such a thing equally 'bore out'? - BBC News)

ii) Is there such affair as the beginning and end of time? (Source: Is there such thing as the beginning and cease of fourth dimension?)

My question is: which version is correct, the one with the indefinite commodity or the or the one without?

I've been reading other WR threads on the structure "there is no such affair" but it appears that the expression in the negative works differently.

Thanks in advance.

JulianStuart

  • #2

You are correct - it's different in the negative form :) and you lot need the article in the positive version.

  • #3

Such a affair is right, but such affair is common.

The difference in the negative form is the aforementioned general dominion that says: There is an apple on the tabular array -> At that place is no apple on the table.

cross-posted

Li'l Bull

  • #4

Thank you, Julian and Juhasz. I understand that when you talk about "the positive", it besides applies to "the interrogative" form, is that correct?

But one other question: can you say "Is there such affair every bit a 'diameter-out'?" (Please notation that I moved the position of the article in example 1) above.)

velisarius

  • #v

2) Is there such thing as the get-go and end of fourth dimension?

I can't see any justification for omitting the article; perchance information technology's a typo. I've never seen "Is there such thing as...?" earlier.:confused:

I come across that the title is from a British publication, just is this a BE/AE divergence?

VicNicSor

  • #6

Y'all are correct - information technology's unlike in the negative class :) and you lot need the commodity in the positive version.

I remember it'south more to practice with "no" being a determiner, rather than with the negative version. E.g., "not" is not a determiner, then you would say "there is not such a thing", right?

Andygc

  • #7

"Is at that place such affair as the outset and finish of fourth dimension?"

Is there such a matter as a failing editor at the New Statesman? From the bear witness of this headline, yep!" :(

ewie

  • #8

But i other question: can you say "Is there such thing as a 'bore-out'?" (Please note that I moved the position of the article in instance 1) above.)

Hullo LB. No, but you lot

tin

say Is there such a thing equally a 'bore-out'? ~ assuming that bore-out is a countable substantive. (I've no idea what diameter out is: I'm too bored to await:cool:)

  • #9

Is there such a matter as a failing editor at the New Statesman? From the testify of this headline, yes!"

And at Forbes, every bit well: Yes, There Is Such Thing Equally A Free Lunch

Thus my comment above; this is a fairly common error.

PaulQ

  • #10

But i other question: can you say "Is at that place such affair as a 'bore-out'?"

It might be helpful if you empathize "a" as "an example of".

Li'l Bull

  • #11

Thank you lot all, guys :).

So much for reliable sources...

Source: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/is-there-such-a-thing-as.3209224/

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